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Pinky Feldman
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Posted - 2012.05.03 11:41:00 -
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CCP's argument is that you should have to pay more to have more targets to shoot at, but the fundamental issue with that is that it provides built in protection for larger entities that should theoretically be able to protect themselves better anyways.
Additionally, the cost scaling with having more targets and being able to fund the war with loot drops under the proposed new model doesn't really scale very well either, even in a best case scenario.
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Pinky Feldman
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Posted - 2012.05.04 12:22:00 -
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Bane Nucleus wrote:Tarsas Phage wrote:
If you've got your undies in a twist over neutral logis, then you might as well also rail against out-of-corp baiting BSes that have a cyno with a bridging titan on the other end elsewhere and any number of other tactics that depend on such surprises.
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While I understand the point you are trying to make, this isn't exactly comparing apples to apples. In order for the baiting BS to work as you suggested, you have to be in low/null sec where you can be attacked anytime, not just when you rep someone. As far as neutral rr goes, I am not around it enough to care too much. That said, I can see why some people have issue with it.
While I understand the point you are trying to make, this isn't exactly comparing apples to apples. In order for the neutral logistics to work as you suggested, there has to be an active war target which can be shot anytime, not just when the titan bridges the fleet.
Because we all know that being able to hide your entire fleet an entire region away, is much easier to counter and plan for than being able to "hide" a couple logistics ships sitting on the top of a station that show up on your overview.
While I think that neutral logi needs to be fixed and is a bad mechanic, which will be fixed with the 60 second aggression timer. If you really want to get into bad game design that ruins potential good fights, why not talk about the Titan bridge, which even small 100 man pirate alliances have at least one of nowadays. Whats the value of roaming or camping with a gang when you know its only inevitable that your gang will get bridged on? Why would you ever want to go roaming when you have titan bridge capabilities and can cover a whole region at a time with alts? The only reason we don't hear more about Titan bridges being OP is because pretty much every major alliance nowadays uses them so frequently, that if you took them out of the game they wouldn't be able to PVP anymore because it would be *gasp* effort.
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Pinky Feldman
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Posted - 2012.05.05 01:50:00 -
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The fact that Goonswarm and TEST are some of the main ones leading the charge that war decs are "unfair" says otherwise about the so-called not caring about war decs. Considering the amount of time that you guys spend either saying the mechanics need to be changed or saying that you don't care, I don't think you can deny that it does affect you somehow. Snot Snot might not be truly impacted by things that Goonswarm does, but with the amount of time he spends posting about them you can't deny that he cares about what they do.
Titan bridges being "expensive" to use is a relative term and in a post-Incursion isk faucet EVE, i'd hardly call it cost prohibitive. While if you're smart in a best case scenario you'd watch list everyone you could, you neglect to mention the amount of range they have. Just because I accept that i'm going to get Titan bridged when flying around in null/low doesn't mean its a good game mechanic. Likewise, accepting that you'll be going up against neutral logi in highsec doesn't mean it doesn't ruin potentially good fights.
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Pinky Feldman
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:06:00 -
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Kriegman wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote:The fact that Goonswarm and TEST are some of the main ones leading the charge that war decs are "unfair" says otherwise about the so-called not caring about war decs. Do you have any specific examples as to why we would give a damn about wardecs? Other than catching noobs and idiots that undock their Badger II from jita 4-4, you make no difference to us. In fact I would prefer that entire empire would wardec us so we could roam to highsec and murder you all on regular basis without having to deal with the concord.
For starters, the fact that you just wrote me a whole paragraph stating how much you don't care and continually feel the need to voice your opinion on war dec game mechanics and how they should be changed. It seems to me the only person you're trying to convince that you don't care about war decs is yourself.
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Pinky Feldman
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Posted - 2012.05.05 20:36:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Jacob Staffuer wrote:TEST/Goons take this game way too seriously and send an inordinate amount of time posturing apathy on the forums.
The funny part is how they think spending effort on appearing "not to care" will work. Oh please let me express my great concern for anything that happens in Empire space, literally anything. Funny how NPC Corp Alts have a vested interest in TEST or GoonSwarm alliance tags, and any member of those alliances that choose to post something on the forums absolutely must be speaking for the entire alliance. How presumptuous.
Bro, you're the one who has made 5 out of 16 posts on this page alone in a thread about the future of highsec war dec pricing at the time of my posting. You're the one resorting to keep irrelevant personal attacks and responses to things people never said in an obvious attempt to derail the thread and stir up people to respond to you. Like Psychotic Monk said, if you really don't care as much as you claim to, just stop posting in this thread and let people who still care about war decs to discuss them.
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